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  1. i have not read this whole, long thread, maybe i am repeating. i am an agility junkie and run 2 dogs who "love" agility, really they do, we have a lot of fun and both are fast with good obstacle skills. my aussie takes off early on many jumps (i call him superman , i do not think he has ETS but i do believe he has a vision issue. one sunday i took them to a fun match to work on a few skills. at one point i looked over at them sitting in their xpen. my thought at the moment was, "i am here for me, not them, they would rather be on their long sunday walk... romping, sniffing, rolling, chasing." i rarely go to fun matches anymore... EGO: 1.the ā€œIā€ or self of any person; a person as thinking, feeling, and willing, and distinguishing itself from the selves of others and from objects of its thought. 2.Psychoanalysis . the part of the psychic apparatus that experiences and reacts to the outside world and thus mediates between the primitive drives of the id and the demands of the social and physical environment. 3.egotism; conceit; self-importance: Her ego becomes more unbearable each day. 4.self-esteem or self-image; feelings: Your criticism wounded his ego. 5.( often initial capital letter ) Philosophy . a.the enduring and conscious element that knows experience. b.Scholasticism . the complete person comprising both body and soul. 6.Ethnology . a person who serves as the central reference point in the study of organizational and kinship relationships. so, i interpret this as, everything is ego. regarding LM/breeding/ETS - link to an article by her. I thought it an interesting read. And no, I do not breed, nor want to.
  2. Thanks, makes sense...except it really makes no sense, for some reason my brain equates puppy mills with illegal and it really never occurred to me that big operations as described can exist. Very sad.
  3. So, what is the difference between a "commercial kennel" and a puppy mill? This is not a sarcastic ?, I really don't know what would make one commercial and one a puppy mill. Does it come down to licensing? By who (or is it whom )? Are they inspected (not that that makes it any better)? Is it actually legal to keep dogs in cages to just be bred? Can anyone ask to walk through? I do not live in an area where there are "commercial kennels", and, though it sounds like I'm stupid and/or naive, I did not know such existed..."out in public". I have enough of an issue with "small breeders for a living" as is, and their dogs are very, very well cared for. Thanks to whoever can answer this!
  4. I love my mars shedding tool! Combined with rake n slicker brush, I get tons of undercoat out if I want n it's a great tools for breaking up matts. They're expensive, have had mine for 3 years/3 coated dogs, about ready to change blade. I use the 10 blade n would love to get a 12 blade. Doesnt bother the dogs at all n doesn't break coat.
  5. oh, interesting, our premiums list the level order and size order for the day, small to tall, etc. i assumed all premiums were like this . good luck and have fun with your trial!
  6. Do you have the premium with the tentative run order? Usually it ends up running as stated.
  7. Well, there's are a lot of distractions! Have you practiced anywhere other than the house? If so good, if not I would think pet stores are a big jump for most dogs.
  8. Might want to have her just get used to walking on slippery floors before you ask for any behavior, baby steps. Just reward her for taking a step first
  9. The first thing to know is if your dog truly understands her job, that the 2o2o has been thoroughly proofed and that you are confident she knows what she is suppose to do, in any environment. If so, then just a verbal can be helpful if she does not perform said behavior. Your timing has to be perfect, the minute she bails. If she has already taken another obstacle, it's too late. I say "HEY", and with that my dog will stop and look at me. I will pause with eye contact and then resume the run, but this is something we have practiced and so they do understand why the "hey", and much more often then not they are very aware of their end behavior next time around. I do not consider myself to have contact issues but occasionally my girl will begin to think she can stop after the end which could quickly become a no longer stopped altogether... I have run in NADAC and "trained" in the ring. I no longer do this for contacts. I now believe that all it is teaching the dog is that it is ok to not stop 'cuz we can just go back and do it again. I will now take advantage of Fun Matches if I need to train in a more trial like environment (even though am sure they know the difference)... Regarding trial nerves, very hard to replicate this in any other environment but things can be done to add more stress to both the handler and the dog in practice. What is her favorite obstacle? Does she love tunnels? If so, put one (or whatever she loves) 10' feet out in front of the contact, run a fast line to the contact and haul ass, will she stop? I have set up 'competition" in class. Timing the runs, prize is a free private, or class, or whatever... Now, everyone knows the difference but it does add a twist. Another thing that seems to rattle nerves a bit is to have everyone clap, cheer, move about, have a few in the "ring" moving around during your run, running a ways behind you, just make sure they don't get in the way . Make it a point to run really hard in practice. I find, for myself as well as others that most run faster and more hectic in trial then they do at practice. Voices become harsher and louder, arms flail a bit more . Also, having distractions on the field (toys, treats, etc.), will she stop and stay 'til released if there is a piece of cheese in front of her? And then, dogs figure out really quick that they can do one thing in practice and a whole 'nother thing in a trial environment... I agree with above, if she is bailing from high with a stopped, wow, training a running may be a real challenge!
  10. I found that if I rolled on the paint, then sprinkled the sand on it, then used the paint roller to roll over the sand to "spread" it around, sprinkled sand in sparse areas, let it dry, rolled on another coat of paint. It worked well for a few years but then I went to contactacoat, so much better!
  11. Oh, she's just a baby dog! I would take a deep breath and just enjoy her for the moment. Sounds like she has some great assets already, 3 months old, climbing a teeter!!!? Maybe the world is just a bit too overwhelming for her, too much goin' on, especially if she is motion sensitive. Humm, maybe she just doesn't have time for treats right now. Continuing the story... Indy did not have any drive, she did not go through a tunnel until she was almost a year and then only twice. I did not want her thinking that doing anything slow was the right way to do it. In fact, the only "obstacles" she did were one set of 2 x 2 (for entries), running fast on a board and Susan Salo's jump training with the jump bumps until 13 months of age, none of this starting before 6 months and very little of any of it. We spent much of our foundation training on flat work, turns on the flat, rear end awareness games, run fast to my side and "line up", etc. Did spend time on her contact end behavior, 2o2o, but no where near equipment, just a short board. No "official" obstacle training until 14 months of age. In contrast to my other dogs, who started much earlier with obstacles, Indy has much better skill sets then they do and all in all is my best "trained" dog. Her contacts are rock solid, her jumping is beautiful and efficient, weaves were easy to train and fast, attitude good and getting faster and faster as her confidence continues to grow and she becomes more mature. It will not matter if my next dog is "in the game at a young age, or not", I will follow what I ended up doing with Indy again. This is something she taught me too .
  12. I tend to skim when I read (remember, no patience ), and so I may be mistaken, but didn't you say she will play with toys and chase you? There are a ton of foundation games you can play with these tools, flat work, circle work, etc., run fast. You just might not be able to teach the foundation in the order you might with another dog . How does she do if you hold your hand on her chest, push back a bit and take off running? Will she chase you then? Just my 2 cents...
  13. I posted elsewhere one time regarding my, now 2.5 year old, as she was when she first came to us. We thought she was deaf for the first 2 weeks we had her. The only reason we decided she wasn't was because she showed interest when she could hear the other dogs bark. She had little interest in anything else, barely would take treats. We named her Indy for Independent. She spent a lot of her time just looking around or sleeping, totally detached from our world. We started labeling her autistic. She did enjoy interacting with my other dogs. Eventually I started playing my version of crate games with her. She spent a good deal of time in her crate for a few weeks at about 3-4 months old, very little interaction with the other dogs, just enough to keep her in their pack, all fun would come from/with me. I hand fed her her meals working towards rewarding any good behavior that she offered... I also used a clicker. She was a little more food motivated then it sounds like your pup is, but initially this had to be built, as she could take it or leave it in the beginning. She had NO play drive, no interest in toys at all. One day she started showing a bit of interest in me pushing her and playing with her physically, which lead to her tugging on my shirt sleeves, something I normally would not encourage but at least it was something, I did encourage it and at times it continues today ! It took until she was 7 months old for her to hang on to a toy for a very, very short session of tug. We thought she had absolutely no drive but was, and is, the sweetest dog. I NEVER thought she would end up having what it takes to be a decent agility pup. What am I learning? Each dog is different, finding the motivators can be a real challenge, frustrating and exhausting, patience is my friend and I am not a patient person. She entered her first trial in January and came away with High In Trial Novice. She now loves to "train" but we call it and treat it like play. I allowed her to grow at her pace and I am thankful for the lessons she has taught me, it has made me a better doggie friend and trainer. Had I of forced her, I think I would have ruined her. Oh and she has the best recall of any of my dogs... who woulda thought. Hope this story helps.
  14. But NADAC judges don't get to create their courses, they are pulled from the NADAC course library (my terminology). If I were a judge, I would think one of the best parts would be creating the courses .
  15. I sent Sharon an email in regards to the new Veterans rule to go into effect on 1/14. According to her reply the age is 8, not 7. I wrote: Hi, I am sending this via email versus asking on the group. I was out of the loop regarding the decision to create a mandatory rule of at what age a dog becomes a veteran, though it unlikely my opinion would have mattered . I do have a question. doesn't this take personal responsibility away from the dog's owner and isn't it ultimately our call on when we feel it is in our dog's best interest to go to a lower jump height? There are many, many dogs over the age of 7 still going strong and competing well, and yes, with responsible owners who put their dog's safety and well being first. Why does NADAC feel they have the right to dictate this? Her reply: Not everyone makes those decisions for the sake of the dog. As of Jan. 1, 2014 after the age of 8 the dog MUST be entered as a Veteran and after the age of 11, the dog MUST be entered as a Skilled Veteran. Since I stated age 7, which is what I read in the group, thought all of you should know the correct age .... And based on my own dogs, never an injury due to agility, but several little ones due to a dog's life in general!
  16. I agree with you regarding only those who do NADAC do it because they can not do other venues, but not sure I think this in defense of NADAC, more to acknowledgement good team work and training in general. I agree that distance requirements for NADAC can be very challenging and it is awesome to watch good distance work, but for the majority of "standard runs" and such, I rarely find little challenge other than to run as fast as I can to keep up with my dogs I have yet to figure out how to attach multiple quotes to my one post...
  17. Oh my, this is hilarious, thank you for putting it in some strange perspective! Yes, your name will most likely end up on some black list, somewhere . Though, I do set up courses and run them different ways (call me insane) but they are never NADAC courses.
  18. Even sadder is if folks are only taught "skills" needed for NADAC without them even getting to see/learn/try/understand different handling skills/methods (no, I did not say systems" , thus never getting to challenge themselves, or their dog, in that way.
  19. I'm really having a hard time separating my thoughts but here goes in no particular order: I started in NADAC. Our clubs needed to buy non-slatted contacts, ok, this was done. Then another piece of equipment was taken away, ok. Then hoops were introduced...new equipment, ok, and I do now use hoops for new students to start teaching handling. I ignore the EGC, so know nothing of it. Then the combined VT program comes to be...WHAT? Ok, my hackles went down slightly when a well respected international handler and instructor said, "well, if this is what folks need to do to get titles, then let 'em have it". Now, barrels... so new equipment to buy and train, takes away from time/money spent on more "universal" agility equipment. I agree with this: "That's just how NADAC is. Honestly, competitor uproar means nothing to Sharon and she will do what she wants. Hello, look at the hoopla over the VT program (the stupidest idea ever, to integrate VT points with those earned at traditional trials). There was uproar over that and she did it anyhow. That was what ultimately pushed me to start trialing elsewhere. It was too much for me. The only reason I plan to continue with any NADAC whatsoever at this point is because Kaiser is two Chances runs from NATCH (where he will be the first Alaskan Klee Kai to do so) and Secret only needs seven Chances for hers. Once that's done I see no point in continuing. My oldest, Luke, is ready to start stepping back anyhow. The reason I'm so vocal and bitter is because I've been a huge NADAC supporter since I started agility. I have defended it more times than I can count to people who left and people who've never even tried it. I can't defend it anymore, because it's no longer "agility" as the world knows it. The changes are becoming laughable. The Kool-aid drinkers are ANNOYING AS HELL. I'm so sick of the, "It should be about having fun with your dog. Awards and titles and Q's shouldn't matter at all," blah, blah, blah. Well guess what, some of us do like a little competition and are vilified in NADAC for saying so. Sharon's latest about how she doesn't feel it's the "course's responsibility to challenge you" is the newest line of BS to annoy me. Uh.... I haven't been "challenged" by a NADAC course for the last two years. It's the whole reason I started doing bonus lines with Luke, because I was bored out of my mind by the repetitive nature of the courses presented every weekend. If I went to a trial where you were expected to run the same course twice in a row I'd just leave. If I want to practice skills I set up exercises at home and run them several different ways. I go to trials to test myself -- and I expect the courses to challenge and test me. I shouldn't HAVE to have 50' between myself and my dog to feel challenged. The courses at the Elite level should have SOME element of difficulty.... " There is a reason that "most", for lack of better wording, serious agility competitors are no longer involved with NADAC, many who were there at the inception, many who were judges... I agree, very little challenge in NADAC. As a friend in another part of the country said, "For the most part, folks here have sort of decided that NADAC is not a venue that does a very good job of challenging the skills of the teams in much of a meaningful way, but the courses are fun to run and in the end that is all that really matters." So, run for fun and don't worry about spending time working on handling skills . And last, but not least... starting 1/14 with NADAC, any dog 7 years or older has to run in Veteran's class. Now, I have no issues with running a dog in Veteran when it's time, but having someone dictate when that is just pisses me off.
  20. won't the fast dogs miss being able to bank the side of the curved tunnel? they sure seem to enjoy it! they might even have a silent bet going to see who can bank the highest .
  21. but the question really is... is nadac really agility anymore? in keeping with sharon's thought process (always a surprise)... nadac might officially declare that it is now about "games to play with your dog". And I do not mean the agility game .
  22. think barrel racing with horses... the barrels are stood up on end and dogs go 'round them. what little i saw looks boring... i can stay home and play "send around a tree" . what i can't figure out is if this is to be integrated into the "agility" portion of the program versus keeping it in Sharon's EGC.
  23. I'm confused, are you saying that barrels will also start replacing tunnels in nadac "standard agility"? If so, then eventually the only tunnels on courses will be straight? Sorry, I briefly looked in the yahoo group but couldn't find any info. Urg... I hate that nadac is the most popular organization in my area... it is barely agility now.
  24. Anniko, a quick story. I have a two year old bc/aussie cross, she was originally a foster. When she came to us we thought she was deaf (she's not), totally uninvolved, very little interest in anything, would sit a lot and look around, seemingly content to let the world go by. She was very hard to read, and still is now in a different way. Against everything that I am, I did very little training other than necessary life skills and games, and what I did would take about a minute each session, I just let her be much of the time. This is not to say she did not get a ton of attention, I just made little demand on her. The word "autistic" kept coming up. It took her until about 8 months old to even start tugging with a short spurt of interest, it took her longer to engage completely in whatever we were doing. She climbed out of her 3' ft. high Xpen at 6 weeks old and was a good escape artist in general . I started seeing a change at about 1.5 years. She is now a bit over 2 and is probably my smartest, quickest, most polite (except she still jumps on me at times of excitement, something I did not address when young because it was SOMETHING) dog with an excellent sense of humor. Her demeanor is still laid back, easy and she gets along with any dog, any time and loves EVERYONE, which is quite nice! She has very good instincts and if you saw her now, one would never know she's the same dog. I believe most things just overwhelmed her when she was small and I believe that if I had not just let her be I would have really screwed her up! With my A type personality I learned that it's OK for a pup to just be a pup and each dog has to be acknowledged and nurtured for who they are, not for who we want/expect them to be. Enjoy her puppiness, it does not last long enough .
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