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  1. You can also try setting them so that you can catch them in the act. Leave something sinful on the counter that no dog could resist...go outside like you were going to leave--take your keys, etc....wait a minute outside the door and then come barging back in, hopefully you have a door near the kitchen. You might be able to catch them in act and discipline them that way.....the surprise of you barging in might work. Try this a couple times a day. The dogs may learn that it is never safe to get on the counters....
  2. You should crate them. There is no telling why they are acting this way. For awhile I suspected that my bc/mix was getting on the dining room table but I could not prove it until I set up a video camera and caught her on film. Of course you cannot do anything after the fact. Luckily she made the mistake of jumping up on the table in front of me. That was the last time she did it. I picked her butt up by the scruff of the neck yelling NO the whole, I put her on her back kind of harshly and proceeded to keep yelling at her and then I made her stay in a down for 10 minutes afterwards. She has never tried to get on any tables or counters since. And yes my dog weighed 40lbs at the time and I am not a big person, a whole 5' tall. I was able to pick her up without issue so please don't let that be an excuse. If they are still getting on counters with you around, then they are not taking you seriously enough with corrections. If you don't want to crate the dogs, try buying mousetraps. Put them UPSIDE DOWN on the counters etc..by doing this you will decrease the chances of them getting injured by the trap but it will also scare them, hopefully and they will stop trying to get on counters and things. I have never tried it but I heard it works great. I was going to do it but I was able to discipline my little devil dog and break the behavior before I went to that measure.
  3. Check the archives for "hope on a rope." Also check under recalls.....there is some great advice on this.
  4. I do flyball with my dogs. I have a bc/mix, australain cattledog and now a miniature poodle. I am one of the trainers for my club and help teach the flyball class. So I do have some credible knowledge and I will give you info based on my teams thinking about aggressive dogs. We have in the past taken on training of aggressive border collies and other breeds and this was when we were still sort of new and needed dogs. We had one border collie in particular that was never socialized as a puppy, the owners never did a thing with her and she was handled by a teenager that is not part of her family. This dog had the makings of being a great flyball dog except for her aggressiveness. Doing flyball did help though....she became more social and during actual practice and competition we did not have to worry about her going after another dog except for one. Of course, we had her in training for a long time before we trusted her to compete. There was a dog on the team that we had to keep away from her because no matter what they would go after each other. Our team has decided to stay away from overly aggressive dogs as much as possible. We have even get some out of class. This dog has since retired for the mot part because the handler has a dog of her own and no longer has time for this border collie. This dog was truly making great progress with taming her aggression but WE all knew to be careful when she was around and we kept our dogs away from her and her belongings unless we were outside in neutral territory. So yes you can teach your aggressive dog flyball, it might help with the socializing, it might help with exercising the dog but be VERY careful. Before you start training for dog sports, I would start working on the aggressive behavior then worry about the dog sports. Flyball can hinder your obedience training so make sure that your dog knows commands first and is very reliable. If you have a very knowledgeable flyball team around, talk to them and ask questions. Some teams do not want to deal with aggressive dogs but others like the opportunity to retrain aggressive dogs. It all depends on the teams in your area and what they expect from a dog. I cannot comment on agility and aggressive dogs since I do not do agility. Have you thought about herding lessons? I would recommend herding lessons before you go into the other sports. Before anything work on finding a good trainer who knows how to deal with aggressive dogs, socialize and work the obedience. You would be amazed at the difference in your dog once it has to use its brain. Do you know what sets your dog off? Why is it so aggressive? Some background info might help.
  5. I teach "watch me" but I use the command "look" by using food. This sounds silly but I will take a treat hold it between my eyes and then say look. Once they look at me, I will give the treat. I gradually increase the time they must look/watch me before they get the treat. For scent discrimination I am useless.
  6. You may not want to lock your dogs up but you need to start taking control. Maybe once they can be trusted which can takes months or even years, you can allow them to have free run. Allowing the dogs to be protective is only making things worse. You need to stop the behavior and take control of your dogs. Training does not stop after 14 weeks, it is an ongoing process. I am not sure what to tell yo to do but you need to find a trainor. Have you though about organized dog sports? It is great exercise, great for socializing, and at first it works the brain (until they learn it), then it is a brainless thing but it still gives them something. Border collies need to be worked mentally not just physically. They will be more worn out if you start working their brains. Instead of just letting them run and play teach them tricks or something. I do not think electric fences work. I have known dogs that will still run off when they wanted even when they get shocked. You need to build some kind of pen. If you have that much land, you could build a large fenced area for the dogs. You need to prevent the problems instead of putting up with it. Everytime you let the dogs run off you are reinforcing the bad behavior. You should look at some other posts about "hope on a rope". It works. RE: Breeding---don't do it. Your dogs are loose cannons with their temperaments. Aggressiveness can be inherited and there is a good chance the puppies will be the same. People will want to meet the k9 parents. You will have a hard time placing puppies if the people can't even meet the parents without being attacked. If you had puppies, they would most likely end up in rescue. I am not trying to put you down, but you need to take control of the situation. Good Luck
  7. I am with everyone else. A dog should not be left outside unattended. Either build a fence or an outside kennel. Your dogs need structured exercise not just freedom to run. I cannot give advice about how to stop a dog from crossing a street other than confinement and never letting your dog out unattended. Shocking the dog in order to stop it form crossing the street will only work when you are watching it. Once you turn your back, they will cross again. Once the neighbors dogs go into heat, you will not be able to keep your dogs on your property unless you build a kennel, run, or fence your property. Regarding breeding: Why would you want to breed a dog that has not proven a thing to anyone, especially herding ability? I do flyball and I am very careful about choosing a dog. Personally, I would not own another border collie and I only have a mix. I might be conned into rescuing one but would not buy from a breeder, especially a backyard breeder. If you decide to breed your dogs, make sure to do all the health testing and make sure to find homes for the pups before you breed your dogs. You sound like you will breed no matter what so at least be responsible about it.
  8. You can order a flyball box at www.flyballequip.com You can also go to the flyball homepage at www.flyballdogs.com and get some other info. But, you should wait until your pup is older before doing the box or jumping. They should be at least 1 year before doing any real jumping. Depending on how the pup hits the box will also determine when to start the dog on it. If the pup hits it hard then you should wait until the dog is 1 before any box work. The box can be hard on the joints and messing with a pups joints can be disasterous. I do flyball with both my dogs. My ACD started at 1 1/2 and my bc/mix started young over what we call puppy jumps. They are only about 1-2inches high, they were almost on the ground but it did give her the concept. I did not introduce the box until she was 10 months or so and she hit the box lightly. She is afraid of noises and the box makes noise. So we had to introduce her to the box outside where there is noise and just make the box pop out balls, etc..until she was comfortable. All her training sessions lasted less than 15 minutes.
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