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Everything posted by Smalahundur

  1. Isn't everything easy when you know how to do it? I mean, I don't think raising a horse from a foal to a riding horse is particularly difficult. But guess what, I spend some decades gaining hands on experience.(At the moment we have 7 horses on the farm at various ages). I agree in that I don't find training bordercollies very difficult. I do remember the learnig curve though, pretty steep at times. But then I am talking mainly about the stockwork part I know someone ( the guilty shall remain nameless) that habitually ruins perfectly fine dogs because of his/her lack of experience combined with a strong resistence to be educated. Unless this person makes a basic chance in attitude there will never be a usfull dog on that farm. For people like that it will always be very difficult.(In this extreme case it is of course always the dog who gets the blame btw.) Imo bordercollies are more likely to become problem dogs beause of their drive and intelligence than a lot of other breeds. As a rule I don't advice people to get one (you know unless etc etc).
  2. I think it is the opposite. Intelligence makes an animal harder to train. Domestic animals are in general (way) more stupid than their wild counterparts. Luckily (most) bordercollies are very biddable. Allows us to train them despite their smarts
  3. What are you expecting from a ten week old pup? I don't think you need "new command ideas". Less commanding rather. Sounds to me like you want too much too soon.
  4. I really don't see the logic behind your reasoning. "Expanding freedom and responsibilities" comes after having trained the dog, and you do that, by definition, by restricting the dog's freedom of behavior. You don't start to trust your puppy before you have trained him what it is you want him to do or not do. By the time I start to trust my dog and give it responsibilities it has reached an age I don't call it a pup anymore. I get the feeling this is trying to implement a good sounding philosophy without any practical method or value. In above post you put forward all kinds of questions you apparently don't have any answers for.
  5. Sorry, in a bit of a flippant mood today. My point was, a nine week old bordercollie pup nippy, and not perfect on a leash? In my experience normal behavior at this age. It will pass. Of course both you and Sue give fine pointers in how to handle the situation. More helpfull than my jocular post
  6. I think you are going through a rather common proces as a starting handler; why does lie down not always mean lie down? You see that with fully trained dogs handlers don't always reinforce the down, a standing stop or even just a slowing down can be satisfactory. Sometimes that is just what is needed depending on the situation, the sheep, the dog etc those different versions can all be fine. You don't want a robot, you want a dog that also thinks for himself, and that means (sometimes) allowing him to know better than to blindly obey you. Often he does! That said, personally, in the beginning of the training of a young dog I do demand and enforce a literal down when I ask for it. On the balace point to begin with to make it "easy" for the dog, more likely than not he will tend to spontaneous drop there. Also I try at that stage to avoid asking for a down when it is very unlikely an excited young dog will take that command. To be able to release control over the dog you first have to have it I think. As so often "it depends"....Not easy, good luck (and fun!) with your training.
  7. Yeah, rather weird. Hopefully a (strange) mistake.
  8. Yes, just that, does the dog get the job done, I agree that is the measure of the dog. ( though sometimes my wife needs to remind me ). Enjoyed your post very much. Happy newyear btw.
  9. Well, " a sheep or two" obviously doesn't cut it. I'd say for training purposes you need at least three times as many. Furthermore, why does this particular dog need to work stock? I would be extremely apprehensive to allow a dog with the issues you describe anywhere near my sheep (and in the unlikely event not without a "sharkcage" to protect the livestock...).. My opinion is if you want to work stock you find a dog that is capable of doing that. Stockwork especially with a green dog is always stressfull (and sometimes dangerous) for the sheep involved. Why add to that equation a dog that has behavioral problems to begin with. As you see I am rather opposed to stockwork "for the benefit of the dog". Sheep aren't dog toys, or a therapeutical panacea for all kinds of bc behavioral problems. If you yourself have a burning interest in stockwork with dogs, go for it. Find someone experienced, and let him assess your dog ( but be prepared to be dissapointed).
  10. Use a crate when you see he's tired "but chooses otherwise". Don't give him a choice.
  11. Ah, that's an explanation. I have never heard of "puppy brokers" before, we don't have them here. Does not sound like a great business idea, why would I want a middle man between me and the breeder? For the potential puppy buyer I only see disadvantages.
  12. In a case like this, where there is no clear diagnosis, you won't get any usefull information from that poll. Some torn ligaments or tendons fare better with conservative treatment, others need surgery. It depends on a myriad of factors. Wish you all the best with your dog.
  13. I like your article. Good points. But the question if e collars have a place in stockdog- , or even general dog training is moot here in Iceland; their use is illegal. And even though I believe in competent hands, and for specific reasons ( again I agree not in stockwork) they can have their use I still am happy with this ban. I have seen myself how a complete idiot abused this tool, and it was not a pretty sight. This person would have been fully capable of screwing up her dog without it, but the e-collar enabled her to do this way quicker and more efficient....
  14. Oh, it was not meant to criticize your post Mark. Your explanation is more thorough.
  15. Completely off topic, but what a weird person this is....
  16. Indeed. By the way, this was just posted by the only blogger I follow, terrierman, https://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2018/12/inbreeding-news.html . Notice the common theme in all these examples?
  17. There is a lot wrong with inbreeding. Just look at how all those pretty recently created breeds are faring. Small genetic base, closed registry, just a big inbred mating party. Oh yeah, very consistent results, dogs that look like eachother's clones ( what a great breeding goal!), and off course all the genetic defects you can think of. Oh but we responsible breeders have tests for those! Pop! Oh noes, there's a new one! And ups, another, well quick, more tests, and culling! We can defeat them!. Good old days, when the bordercollie was "just" a type, and not a breed. As far as I am concerned the best thing that could happen to dogs is the end of "pure breeding".
  18. Yeah, that's inbreeding allright. Also watch out for the term " linebreeding", that is also a term for inbreeding used by people who don't want to call it what it is. What "counts" as inbreeding, or acceptable inbreeding varies wildly with what kind of breeder you talk to. Personally I do not want to see any inbreeding in my pups ( I don't breed myself). Can you return the pup? (Edit, looked at your other topic, looks rather hopeless.)
  19. Reasonable enough, sometimes you "pick your battles", and let something slide that is unwanted behavior, but not imported enough to put a lot of energy in ( we, or rather my daughter owns a chihuahua/pincher mix....). But in case of the OP it was mentioned that this issue might lead to the rehoming of the dog when not resolved. That sounds like pretty important to me.
  20. Well, obviously a dog is not a child. I prefer to train my dogs, not to be trained by them.
  21. Sounds like it went pretty good! The languages of my commands are a ridiculous mess, stockworkcommands mainly icelandic, with some english ("down", "walk on") thrown in, and a couple of dutch, mostly daily life stuff ( bv. "aan de kant", "kom hier", etc). Ah well, at least there's whistles...
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